[心得] Dexter & Deb 十大理由

看板EAseries (歐美影集)作者 (Egalitarian-liberalism)時間14年前 (2011/12/12 01:14), 編輯推噓17(17022)
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雷 在showtime的討論版看到一位網友在論證為何D&D戀是合情合理而且符合本劇風格的 很仔細又很完整的論述,至少我就被說服了 1. Dexter's first statement about Deb. "She's the only person in the world that loves me. I think that's nice. I don't have feelings about anything, but if I could have feelings at all I'd have them for Deb." 2. Deb and Dexter flirt like crazy in their very first scene together. She blushes at him, he talks about her outfit, tells her to wear the sex suit to the interview. Later he sees her in uniform and brings up "I liked the sex suit better" she replies "You are a sick **ck" That's flirting, a little odd for brother/sister don't you think? Right off the bat we have established Dexter and Debra as "a little different" 3. Breakfast at Dexter's. Bagles. She picks out his tie and stares at him lovingly and tells him "It brings out the green in your eyes" 4. She picks out her brother's girlfriend. "Rita" an abused docile blonde who is absolutely submissive and is totally different and no threat to Deb. Coincidence? This is the woman SHE has chosen for Dexter. 5. Double Date. In front of Rita and Dexter, Debra is all over her boyfriend, making Rita very self conscious. Deb is either consciously or subconsciously asserting her sexual dominance over Rita. This is psych 101 stuff. 6. Dexter is insulted in school, he resist the urge to lash out. Later the kids accuse him of having sex with his sister, this hits home and sends him over the top, he goes after them with a blade and Harry stops him just in time. 7. Debra falls madly in love with Rudy. So much so that she "makes love" for the first time and cries. In Deb's eyes, this is her first real love. Should I point out that Rudy is in fact Brian Moser, Dexter's brother. And even though the actors don't look like brothers (more like cousins), the characters are meant to. In the novel "Darkly Dreaming Dexter" Brian and Dexter look so much alike they are practically twins. Deb cannot tell them apart on camera. Book 1 and Season 1 are the same story with only a few changes. And what is Brian? A sociopath with a totally manufactured personality. He is smooth, likeable, seemingly a great guy, but emotionally distant and can shut himself off and push Deb away at any time. Debra falls in love with Rudy because HE IS DEXTER version 1.1A 8. Debra demands that she be Dexter's main confident. She does not want him bonding with a guy friend, she is jealous and possessive. That if he is ever going to let someone into his private life and thoughts, it has to be her, because she has earned that right. She wants more from him than he gives. These are not the words of a sister, these are the words of a girlfriend. 9. Debra wants every detail of Dexter's sex life. She even wants to know what "noises" Rita makes when they have sex. She is not only prying, in the back of her mind, she is sizing up the competition. 10. When Dexter chooses to start seeing Lila, Deb freaks out. She has lost control. Lila is more assertive than Rita, a sexual rival to Deb, even baring her breasts in the home, threatening Deb's territory. Instead of making herself scarce, and letting Lila go back to Dex and close the bedroom door, Deb marches right in to her brother's private area, where he is on the bed nude, and confronts him about Lila. From that point on she is at war with Lila. -- Life is an offensive Direct against the repetitious mechanism of the universe -Alfred North Whitehead -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.168.76.226

12/12 09:11, , 1F
蠻有道理的
12/12 09:11, 1F

12/12 09:12, , 2F
尤其是講到Rudy跟Dexter其實長得很像那部份(原著)
12/12 09:12, 2F

12/12 11:18, , 3F
這是標題雷吧...T_T
12/12 11:18, 3F

12/12 11:21, , 4F
psych 101 stuff...XD很有道理~但很好奇如果真要發展,要怎樣
12/12 11:21, 4F

12/12 11:21, , 5F
寫才不怪...Y
12/12 11:21, 5F

12/12 11:43, , 6F
我PO文的時間都還沒播啊....沒有雷吧
12/12 11:43, 6F

12/12 13:59, , 7F
應該是還沒看到第六季的人會被標題雷到
12/12 13:59, 7F

12/12 14:02, , 8F
我覺得標題還好啊@@
12/12 14:02, 8F

12/12 14:04, , 9F
標題應該看不出來是在寫兄妹戀...吧? 囧
12/12 14:04, 9F

12/12 15:16, , 10F
會不會演一演兩位演員又舊情復燃了XD
12/12 15:16, 10F

12/12 15:27, , 11F
Unlikely, because Michael probably can't have
12/12 15:27, 11F

12/12 15:27, , 12F
children
12/12 15:27, 12F

12/12 16:53, , 13F
一進來看到標題就猜到了..SHIT...
12/12 16:53, 13F

12/12 19:19, , 14F
第一段讀起來真感人><
12/12 19:19, 14F

12/12 19:51, , 15F
Quinn被Deb甩了後整季都在當爛泥,兄妹戀會使他崩潰吧@@
12/12 19:51, 15F

12/12 21:43, , 16F
愈來愈不喜歡Quinn了
12/12 21:43, 16F

12/12 22:46, , 17F
現實當中他們不是夫妻嗎?
12/12 22:46, 17F

12/12 22:47, , 18F
離婚了阿XD
12/12 22:47, 18F

12/12 22:47, , 19F
已經離婚快兩年了
12/12 22:47, 19F

12/13 09:30, , 20F
當初dex得癌 debra隔天馬上談離婚 歐美人很現實不講道義
12/13 09:30, 20F

12/13 09:30, , 21F
你們若知道debra私下為人就不會喜歡她了
12/13 09:30, 21F

12/13 10:08, , 22F
問題是在小孩身上才不是癌症
12/13 10:08, 22F

12/13 10:09, , 23F
而且從Michael發言人證實他得癌鄭到離婚差了一年
12/13 10:09, 23F

12/13 10:09, , 24F
樓上是怎麼得出"歐美人都很不講道義"和"要是你知道他私
12/13 10:09, 24F

12/13 10:10, , 25F
下為人" 這種可笑的鄉土劇邏輯的
12/13 10:10, 25F

12/13 10:15, , 26F
1.常理推論 2.官方說法你也信? 倒底是誰不清楚
12/13 10:15, 26F

12/13 10:17, , 27F
常理推論可以得出"歐美人都很現實不講道義"?你究竟是認
12/13 10:17, 27F

12/13 10:18, , 28F
識多少所謂的"歐美人"(wow,真是土的詞)來得到這種"常識
12/13 10:18, 28F

12/13 10:19, , 29F
2.那不是官方說法,如果你那陣子有再注意周邊的新聞就
12/13 10:19, 29F

12/13 10:19, , 30F
會看到
12/13 10:19, 30F

12/13 12:18, , 31F
嗯嗯 閣下所言甚是
12/13 12:18, 31F

12/13 12:34, , 32F
there, was that so hard? of course I'm always right
12/13 12:34, 32F

12/13 13:27, , 33F
跟某人認真什麼啊......
12/13 13:27, 33F

12/15 10:19, , 34F
NT300不意外阿 科科
12/15 10:19, 34F

12/16 09:21, , 35F
真的要搞D&D戀,我會瘋掉....拜託編劇不要那麼腦殘!
12/16 09:21, 35F

12/20 00:22, , 36F
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06/28 00:47, , 37F
總算看完第六季了,雖然早被這個標題雷到一點...
06/28 00:47, 37F

08/16 12:33, , 38F
總算看完第六季了,雖然 https://noxiv.com
08/16 12:33, 38F

09/22 02:49, , 39F
1.常理推論 2.官 https://daxiv.com
09/22 02:49, 39F
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