[討論] MRI 下的華格納 Abendstern

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男中音朋友剛傳來一個影片 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCluRCd2YuM

我們討論了一陣子我就決定上 YouTube 回應　碎碎念一下想說把我的回應抄到這裡來看有沒有 P 幣 ------- The film alone could in some case be misleading for those at the beginning of the learning curve without reference to the comments given by Michael Volle himself. Here is a link of MERKUR-interview about this experiment, for those understanding German: http://www.merkur.de/kultur/bariton-michael-volle-singen-abendstern-liedes-wagners-tannhaeuser-roentgenaufnahme-6370081.html I'll try to recall some of the words of Michael Volle in English from scratch. Please forgive me for possible inaccuracies and poor wording. He knows Dr. Echternach in a choir (Stuttgarter Kammerchor) who came to him one day to ask him for instrumental inspection of the singing organ as part of his project studying some singing anatomy. "It was not comfortable", recalled Michael Volle, and "totally without appoggio". He did this to some extent unprepared, and it was not appropriate to sing something from Don Giovanni, because it would have required too much movements of his body. "Incredible! I never expected such a long tongue from myself...." "The root of the tongue should never be so elevated...." "and the tongue should be sort of touch the teeth..." .... etc. My comments: Basically, people should keep in mind that this Abendstern has been sung under a quite restricted environment and thus at "sotto voce" and it contains demonstration of technical "imperfections" according to Michael Volle himself as well as one of baritone-friend of mine albeit the video is highly intriguing and useful for inspecting the formant-formation of vowels (not singing formant in the sense of Sundberg!). Some words for people from Taiwan: 一位男中音朋友傳來這個影片，並且提出諸多質疑。我就說，他唱的是 sotto voce 吧，在音樂會上應該不會這麼唱。於是找到上面那篇德文訪談。我很建議看影片的同時，最好也知道 Michael Volle 本人對這個實驗的想法。要不然，萬一有人一味地模仿他的口腔，可能不是一件那麼好的事情，雖然這個影片很有趣，對於目睹口腔與舌頭在每一個母音不同的位置，也很有價值。這是為了把口腔形塑成特定的形狀，讓那個母音的特徵頻率]formants）放大出來，這也是我們的聽覺辨認日常語音的基礎。基本上，我們最好知道，這個實驗是在一個限制很大的環境下執行的，而且 Michael Volle 被 Dr. Echternach 要求「唱點什麼吧」的時候，他應該是沒什麼準備的。來個 Don Giovanni 吧？又怕身體動得太厲害，最後就唱了 Abendstern。根據他自己的說法，那個地方「不很舒服」。事後他覺得，「完全沒有支撐」，而且他詑異自己的舌頭怎麼會那麼長，並且還落掉了一些音。他認為，根據一般性的物理原則來說，「舌根是不應該那麼高的」，而且「舌頭是要碰到牙齒的」。他說，他想他不會因為這個影片而調整唱法，他受聲樂訓練是個很久以前的故事了，並不清楚現代的聲樂學生都怎麼學習。不過他相信，大部分人還是只根據聽覺來修正自己的聲音以及唱法。他相信這種實驗會帶同事們一些啟示。 ~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.32.88.232 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/clmusic/M.1462870810.A.A72.html