Re: Fake Haas Edition

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※ 引述《Piaf (...)》之銘言: : Karajan/BPO (EMI, DG) : Karajan/VPO (DG) Although von Karajan DID add the cymbal clash together with the timpani and pauke in the Adagio of Bruckner's 7th, I believe that he still adopted the Haas Edition of this symphony, since von Karajan did not apply the tempo alternations in the last movement. In addition to the percussion part in the Adagio, another discrepancy between the Haas Ed. and the Nowak Ed. is the tempi instruction in the first and the last movement, especially the last mvt. For example, in the 4th movement in the Nowak Ed., it is marked "ritard" in bar 7 and in bar 9 it's marked "a tempo." and this kind of tempi alternation is not seen in Haas Ed. It's believed that thess tempi instructions are suggested by J. Shalk. (I recommend those who are interested in this history to read some references. In my opinion the best one is the preface of the Nowak Edition, by Professor Nowak himself.) Dr. Robert Simpson did not quite agree the tempi indication here. In his book "The Essence of Bruckner" (The Camelot Press Ltd, 1967(1st Ed), 1977 (2nd Ed)), he said that the verbal instruction by Bruckner was possibly under the "daily-chat" situation: Schalk: You don't want absolutely rigid tempi, do you? Bruckner: No, of course not. Schalk: Right! Leave it to us. Dr. Simpson also quoted another pianist's words (Friedrich Wuhrer), who once met an old musician who was at present on the occation of the two piano version of the 7th symphony, performed by Schalk and Loewe, with Bruckner at present. That old musician recalled that actually Bruckner was agitated about the duo performance: "What are they doing? That's not my symphony!" Of course this is only a story, maybe less convincing than the evidence of Bruckner's letters to Nikisch. However Dr. Simpson had a point here. For those who want to compare the tempo differences in the 4th mvt, I recommend Jochum's Dresden version (Nowak, EMI) and Wand's Berliner version (Haas, BMG/RCA). -- Piaf @ PTT; klem/Dutchman elsewhere. ※ 編輯: Piaf 來自: 204.39.227.99 (01/29 10:54)

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