Re: Fake Haas Edition

看板clmusic (古典音樂)作者Piaf (...)時間21年前 (2004/01/30 23:59)推噓2(2推 0噓 0→)

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※ 引述《Piaf (...)》之銘言： : Schalk: You don't want absolutely rigid tempi, do you? : Bruckner: No, of course not. : Schalk: Right! Leave it to us. The tempi indication issue is still debated in the past 60 years, and of course has not come to a conclusion yet. Let's see what the Bruckner scholars said on this problem. Dr. Deryk Cooke, the most famous advocate of the Haas Edition, thought that the tempi indication, such as the scattered "ritard-a tempo" pairs, are particular harmful since thry destroy the natural flow of the music. ("The Bruckner Problem Simplified", The Muisical Newsletter Inc, NY, 1975) Dr. Cooke regarded this tempi indications as simply Nikisch's "conductor's markings", and absolutely have no place in Bruckner's score. On the contrary, Dr. william Carragan said that the ritards in the finale are authentic, and it's not optional. (In his opinion, the cymbal clash in the Adagio is optional, just a matter of taste.) ("The Bruckner Versions, Once More", American Record Guide, March 1995) One major discrepancy between Dr. Haas and Dr. Nowak, is that Dr. Haas wanted only one version for each symphony so he combined materials from different versions; however Dr. Nowak thought that the different revisions should be published separately. For example, the eighth symphony, we have 1887 Nowak version, and the 1890 Nowak version, but only one 1887-1890 Haas Edition. Different scholars have different comments on Bruckner's personal character too. Dr. Carragan thought that Bruckner has a radical(!) and forward-looking view of what symphonic music should be, while Dr. Cooke said that Bruckner did not possessed the "normal" self-confidence of the great composer. In my observation, it seems that the elder scholars, such as Dr. Cooke, Dr. Simpson, and Dr. Doernberg are more fond/pro the Haas Edition, while the younger scholar's are more likely in favor of the Nowak Edition, such as Dr. Carraga, and Dr. Korstvedt. What's funny is that, these Brucknerian are either from UK or from US. -- Piaf @ PTT; klem/Dutchman elsewhere. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 141.212.126.245